Letter from the Co-Op |
I got the letter shown shown here from Amanda Bailey (Customer Relations). Here is the reponse I have sent back to her (for a different take on this story see here):
UPDATE 10 Sept 2012: See here.Amanda BaileyCustomer RelationsThe Co-operativeFreepost MR9473MA 8BA4 August 2012Dear Ms Bailey,Thank you for your letter of 19th July. I have a number of follow-up questions.My first set of questions relate to your choice of criteria for boycotting countries. You assert that under your “Human Rights and Trade Policy” you withdraw all trade when there is a ‘broad international consensus a settlement is illegal’ and that ‘there are only two examples of such settlements: the Israeli settlements in the Palestinian Occupied Territories and the Moroccan settlements in Western Sahara”. Before addressing the issue of the legality or otherwise of the Israeli settlements, I note from your website that the most serious humans rights abusers in the world, namely Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Somalia, Venezuela, Yemen and Zimbabwe are not on your boycott list. So my questions are:1. ‘Occupation’ is the only criteria that you mention; what other criteria do you have as part of your “Human Rights and Trade Policy”?2. Is denial of equal rights to women and/or minorities included in your criteria, and if not why not?3. Is persecution of gays and lesbians included in your criteria, and if not why not?4. Is the brutal suppression of ethnic minorities and political dissidents included in your criteria, and if not why not?5. Is sponsoring and glorifying terrorism included in your criteria, and if not why not?6. Is state sponsored anti-Semitism included in your criteria, and if not why not?7. Assuming the answer to at least one of questions 1-6 is ‘yes’ then why are you not boycotting goods from every one of the 58 Muslim countries in the world?8. Is “conducting illegal wars far from a country’s own borders” one of the criteria, and if so why is the Co-Op not boycotting goods from the USA, France, Italy, Holland etc. In fact, how comes the Co-Op is not boycotting goods from the UK?My next set of questions concerns the issue of ‘illegal settlements’ of which you say there are only two examples (one of which is the Israelis):9. Are you aware that, even according to the United Nations (resolution 242), the West Bank does not belong to any national territory but rather is considered disputed territory whose borders are to be determined under a final status peace agreement?10. Are you aware of the recent Levy Report that demolishes the false narrative of Israeli settlement and occupation by restating many of the obvious points of law; most significantly that Israel is not an occupying power and did not seize any land from another state. Indeed all of the land that Israel is accused of occupying in the West Bank is actually land that was seized from it by the invading Jordanian and other Arab armies during its 1948 War of Independence?11. Are you aware that the only legal basis for denouncing the Jews who returned in 1967 to the homes that they had been expelled from in 1948 as “settlers” is by recognizing the Jordanian conquests of those territories. But those conquests were never recognized or accepted. Not even by the international community.12. Assuming that your claim of a ‘broad international consensus’ is the 2004 International Court of Justice ruling (which Israel did not participate in and which has been demolished by the Levy report) are you aware that one of the ICC ‘judges’ was Al Khasawneh who had a blatant conflict of interest, since he was an advisor to the King of Jordan and later became the Prime Minister of Jordan?13. Why does your notion of occupied territories fail to include the approximately 160 other territories around the world that are ‘disputed’ (each of which necessarily involves one country ‘occupying it’ against the wishes of some other country or national group)?14. In particular why does your definition not include genuinely brutal occupations such as: the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, or even the Russian occupation of Abkhazia, especially as China, Russia and Turkey all of have infinitely worse human rights records than Israel?15. You are presumably aware that one of the disputed international territories is the Falklands Islands, which Argentina claims is illegally occupied by the UK. A significant majority of countries in the UN now agree with the Argentine position. So, as per question 8 above, why is the Co-Op not boycotting the UK?16. Are you aware that any notion of an ‘international consensus’ is fundamentally irrelevant because the United Nations contains 58 Muslim states – all human rights abusers as described above - who provide a built-in ‘consensus’ on any anti-Israel motion that anybody cares to think of?My next question concerns your assertion that the Co-Op “continue to seek increased trade with Palestinian businesses.” The corrupt Palestinian Authority is not only guilty of all of the human rights offences listed above, but is actually one of the world’s worst offenders. For anti-Semitism the PA truly are world-beaters with their indoctrination of children (becoming a suicide bomber to kill Jews is the highest ambition of most Palestinians children); in the Palestinian Authority selling land to a Jew (not an Israeli please note) is punishable by death and numerous Palestinian citizens have been killed for this ‘crime’. So:17: How is the Co-Op’s “Human Rights and Trade Policy” consistent with seeking increased traded with such a brutal, corrupt regime?And finally, three general questions:18. Do you believe that Israel – the only liberal democracy in the Middle East where all minorities have equal rights – is a worse human rights violator than Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the Palestinian Authority, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Russia, China etc?19. How is your policy to boycott goods produced by Jewish communities in the West Bank anything other than pure anti-Semitism?20. How and why did the Co-Op get hoodwinked into a nonsensical hypocritical policy (that will ultimately be self-damaging) by a small group of congenital anti-Semites disguised as ‘pro-Palestinian’ activists.Yours sincerely,Edgar Davidson
15 comments:
Excellent post Mr. Davidson and excellent letter. Thank you for updating me on my own blog. I look forward to hearing what reply (if any) you receive from the Co Op.
You of course will never receive a sane or coherent answer to your questions. Either she'll say "I was just following orders" or "We evaluate everything on a case by case basis" or some such twaddle. You know that, don't you?
For your information I also complained about this boycott .In return I received the identical letter. I wrote again explaining that this boycott would harm the Palestinian farmers. In return I received a copy of the first letter sent to me.56
I also wrote to the Co op to complain about the boycott. I received the identical letter back from M/s Customer Relations. I wrote back to explain that it would be the Palestinian farmers who would suffer from this boycott. In return I received another copy of the first letter. Quite a put down.
Edgar -
As one BDS opponent to another, I congratulate you on an excellent piece. So clearly statement. You did a great job.
I am curious, over in England, how do BDS-ers usually respond to the "singling out Israel" argument. Here in the States the response is usually some combination of:
1) But the US is providing billions of my tax dollars for finance the occupation and the suppression of Palestinians.
2) But we have been asked to support this cause by Palestinian Civil Society. If the Tibetans asked me to boycott China, I would do it.
3) But occupation is unique.
4) Just because I can't help everyone doesn't mean I shouldn't help some.
And finally,
4) As a Jew, I feel a special obligation to speak out against Israel's excesses/transgressions/atocities (pick one).
Kol HaKavod,
Nycerbarb
P.S. - I got it that Free Palestine Now is a satire site. Is Fiona Warburton a real person or nom de plume.
Empress Trudy and Eddie:
I expect that, like Eddie, I will get back exactly the same letter as the first. In that case I will write direct to the CEO Peter Marks saying that the person he delegated the response to has not answered my questions.
To "Stop the BDS Park slope"
Interesting that in the US there is something of an altruistic reason for 'supporting the Palestinians' (as you say as in "we have been asked to support this cause.."). It is never that in the UK. The people involved in the BDS movement here have no interest in helping the Palestinians. They are plain and simple anti-Semites.
Indeed they are. I've been looking systematically at some of their comments on Facebook. Some, including a prominent BDS activist in London, are totally obsessed with vilifying Israel, and do so in ways which easily identify them as Jew-haters. And the comments left on their posts are quite astounding. Many of their Australian counterparts are as vicious. Needless to say, an extremely high proportion are leftists, and yet despite being avowed progressives they will not tolerate any criticism of Islamic views and practices. Many of their comments re "Zionists" are stomach-churning, and the total ignorance of Jewish and Israeli history, and eagerness to swallow the enemies' lies, is mind-boggling.
Daphne
Sadly my satirical 'pro-Palestine' blog is becoming indistinguishable from reality:
http://palestinefreenow.blogspot.co.uk/
I assume Ms Warburton is now working for the Guardian, Edgar!
Yes, I see Ms Warbuton has updated her profile.
Blog muy bueno, se alegra de saber muchas cosas aquĆ, espero que a
menudo puede ver, muchas gracias!
Ah, so she has!
Off topic, I noticed this Virgin Media Short; looks as if anti-Israel propaganda is getting everywhere these days
http://www.virginmediashorts.co.uk/film/3242/they-came-in-the-morning
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